Hot Cherry Pies:
Pornography and Justice for Women
By Stephanie Cleveland
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A few weeks ago, I attended a Take Back the Night rally on my college
campus. The evening was devoted to raising awareness about rape.
I was glad to be there, glad to be supporting an event that criticized
men’s violence against women, and glad to be surrounded by
some incredible women, many of whom were survivors of sexual assault.
But even though I felt proud to be taking part, I also felt sad.
As I listened to the speakers who had been chosen to address our
group, I heard discussion of everything from date rape, to harmful
depictions of women on television, but there was one issue nobody
seemed willing to talk about. No one said anything about pornography.
No one spoke about the fact that the women in pornography and prostitution
are survivors, too. No one mentioned that over two thirds of women
in pornography experience childhood sex abuse before entering the
industry. Nobody talked about how frequently prostituted women are
raped, beaten and murdered, and no one questioned whether or not
there might be similarities between the descriptions given by some
women in pornography, of how filming a scene feels, (“It’s
like I’m outside of myself, like I’m watching what’s
happening to me”), and the dissociation rape victims sometimes
talk about experiencing. While everybody acknowledged that we live
in a culture where men often feel they have the right to take sex
by force, no one seemed willing to admit most men also feel they
have a right to buy it. No one brought up the issue of pornography
except me. As a feminist, I brought it up. I oppose pornography
and prostitution because I do not believe selling women and girls
for sex can ever be positive or empowering. To me, standing in opposition
to pornography and prostitution seems like the only truly progressive
position to take. But I was amazed at the lack of support I got
at the rally. And I am constantly amazed at how hated criticism
of pornography seems to be.
I oppose pornography and prostitution because they hurt women,
including me. As a woman, I would like to be treated as an equal
human being. I would like equal treatment for all women, but I do
not see how we can reach that goal, as long as some of us can be
bought and sold for men to use. Not surprisingly, my feelings about
pornography do not make me popular with men. I can count on one
hand the number of male friends I have had who supported my work
against pornography. I am not conservative, at all. I am strongly
pro-choice, pro-environment, anti-marriage, anti-capitalist, and
extremely supportive of lesbian and gay rights. Most of the men
I speak to about pornography agree with me on these issues. They
identify themselves as liberal, and feel that the subordination
of human beings is wrong. They believe that massive corporations
do not have the right to exploit people in the name of global capitalism—unless
those corporations are part of the pornography industry.
The sex industry, however, is founded on capitalism, greed, and
men’s contempt for women and people of color. It frequently
defines sex as a service women perform for men, and it almost exclusively
markets women’s bodies, usually photographed in submissive
positions, to men and even boys. It sexualizes racist stereotypes
about Black women, Asian women and other women of color, and promotes
racist beliefs about men of color as well. Yet, most of the liberal
men I know defend their right to use pornography despite their supposed
commitment to social justice. They defend pornography despite the
fact that, in the most popular pornography, women’s humiliation
and subordination are eroticized. In pornography, women are depicted
as enjoying surrender, rape, being fucked by strangers, performing
oral sex on large groups of men until they ejaculate on our faces,
and almost any other form of male dominance a person could dream
up. A glance around a typical store that sells pornography, one
glance at the DVDs and magazines that line the shelves, will tell
you, I am describing mainstream pornography, not examples that are
extreme or on the margins.
Pornography features violence, racism, and sexism, passed off as
speech, but pornography is neither speech nor fantasy. Pornography
is made by doing real things to real women. Many women might choose
not to work in the pornography industry, if they were not
physically or mentally coerced. Women might make different choices,
if we did not grow up learning to base so much of our self-worth
on weather or not men find us sexually attractive. Oftentimes, women
experience having our boundaries broken down by men very early,
when we are still children, through incest and other forms of abuse.
Women are also poor, relative to men, and when women live in poverty,
we do what is needed to survive, or to help our children survive,
even if that includes selling sex. A lot can happen to women, in
a male dominated culture that still teaches us sex is our greatest
power, that the most valuable thing we have to offer men is letting
them fuck us. People who defend pornography do not consider that
these factors, rooted in sexism, do influence women to enter the
industry, and might be influencing them to stay, even when they
are harmed.
Often liberal men and some women remind me that pornography is
not the only problem facing women. They suggest I focus my energies
on more important issues. The first male friend I tried to talk
to about how pornography made me feel, told me I should focus my
efforts on sexist depictions of women in what he described as, other,
more mainstreamed media. The pornography industry has an over 10
billion dollar a year profit margin. It is as mainstreamed as television
commercials, sitcoms, or any other media that might promote sexist
stereotypes about women, and pornography often infiltrates those
media as well. The average boy growing up in America will see pornography
for the first time when he is eleven years old. Pornography begins
extremely early, to fuse men’s desire with the treatment of
women as less than human, in a way TV commercials do not. Men learn
to orgasm to images of women they use in pornography. Through pornography,
men learn to use women for sexual release, and then put us away.
At best, pornography connects male sexual pleasure with the belief
men have the right to buy sexual access to women; at worst, it allows
men to climax to images of women’s suffering.
Most men and women I know who use pornography believe sex is about
power differences. They feel domination, submission and gender are
inherent and natural parts of sex. Any critique of sadomasochism,
they suggest, is puritanical—the rougher the sex filmed in
pornography, the realer it must be, since, according to them, male
sexuality is naturally coercive, female sexuality naturally masochistic.
Anyone who thinks sex could and should be about tenderness, caring
or respect, is fooling herself, (or himself) being naïve, judgmental.
Yet, pornography is offering its own judgments about what sex between
men and women should be. Pornography offers women choices in sex,
only to the extent that we do not want to choose anything other
than fucking, sex that is impersonal, gendered, often violent and
humiliating.
For defenders of pornography, violence against women is natural,
at least within the context of the industry. It cannot be called
abuse, because the women get paid. Violence in pornography does
not matter because women consent, if we are given money. The underlying
assumption is, that some women (if not all) enjoy being used. What
does that say about women’s status in the twenty first century,
about men’s view of women in general? One man, a poet and
editor, who defended his pornography use to me explained simply,
“women like to be dominated.” I think that is an attitude
a lot of men who use pornography hold. Women who question pornography
are told we aren’t looking at it the right way. We are told
never to think about what the woman being fucked in pornography
might ultimately be feeling, during the scene, or after, after the
cameras turn off. We are told not to consider whether or not her
free choice really hurts, whether it hurts her dignity as a person,
having other men watch her being used, having men bond together
over the collective use of her body; whether it hurts women exposed
to pornography made of her later, by men in their own lives; whether
it hurts women as a class, in and outside the industry.
The majority of women who go into pornography are poor. They have
fewer privileges in life, generally speaking, than men and women
who defend pornography, and men who use them. A lot of women in
pornography and prostitution did not get to go to college like me.
Yet, as a feminist, if I show concern for women in pornography,
I am sometimes accused of denying them agency. While liberal men
and women agree that people living in poverty are entitled to help
and compassion, that being poor does not mean you are stupid or
less entitled to human dignity—for some reason, there is this
assumption that women being sold through pornography do not deserve
to leave, that women should not be encouraged to know they deserve
better out of life. Some tell me I am antifeminist if I
suggest that all women deserve better than being marketed as, what
one prostitution survivor termed, spittoons for men’s semen.
I am making women into victims, if I say pornography hurts them,
hurts me. Yet, the only freedom I truly want to take away is the
freedom men have to buy sexual access to women. Women in pornography
should be unionized and well-vetted, its defenders repeat, but never,
ever encouraged to leave.
But what would happen if the women did leave? What would happen
to men, if women in pornography decided to leave, if they actually
could? Would men die without pornography? Are men really so hooked
on the misogyny pornography sells, that they can no longer live
without it?
It has also been suggested to me by liberal men and some women,
that rather than attack pornography, I should work towards putting
control of the industry into women’s hands. The people who
suggest this seem to believe even though patriarchy is still firmly
in place, that somehow, where sex is concerned, women are able to
make decisions out of freedom and equality. But women are forced
to make choices about sex, and about entering into pornography,
like all the other choices we make in our lives—under a system
of male dominance we still are not free from. We do not control
any industry on this planet, as women. It is absurd to think we
do or will ever control men’s pornography use. Men have the
money and power to control what type of pornography gets made, and
by whom. And judging from the direction the industry has taken in
the past decade, men who use pornography want very much to be able
to use women—they want to be able to use us without having
to worry about being gentle, or feminist.
One male reviewer’s comments on female pornographer Candida
Royalle’s website seem telling: “Not too much for my
wife, but still arousing. I am not sure if it would be great to
sit down to alone. I might want something a little less ‘lovable.’”
Women can waste time and energy making pornography that is arguably
less overtly degrading, but men still have the final say over what
pornography they’ll use. Sadly, women, like men, can abuse
other people, and women, like men, can become pimps. This is why
the idea of a woman-run pornography industry is not only unlikely,
but terribly sad. In that case, the industry would still be based
on injustice—on the selling of some people as sex, on women
catering to men, giving men what men want, rather than asking them
for social change—the only difference would be, women would
be the pimps as well as the victims.
The lives of women hurt by pornography should matter. The lives
of those who feel broken by pornography should matter, too, more
than any inherently compromised attempts to rework the industry.
Why is it so unacceptable to ask men to give up pornography? The
speech of those raped by pornography users, and by men who pressure
and force women to act out scenes from pornography—should
be allowed to matter. Their voices should matter more than the speech
rights of men, who can live without pornography. Women
hurt in pornography should also count more than the voices of a
small, elite group of women willing to defend pornography. These
women exploit other women, in order to make money. Women who claim
pornography empowers us all, operate from a position of privilege.
They do not have to live through being assaulted by a father who
uses pornography, or being bullied into performing sex acts by boyfriends
who use it. This tiny group of women pornographers gets to stand
behind the camera, producing about one percent of the industry’s
content. Men, and especially men who make pornography, are only
too happy to support them. They pay lip service to the idea of ‘feminist
erotica’ or whatever new names people come up with for woman
made pornography, while continuing to film women fucked, in the
truest sense of the word, used, marketed.
Pro-pornography women claim they are entitled to their individual
freedom of expression (how free one can be to express ideas about
women and sex, within a form men invented, is hard to understand.)
Feminism should be about giving women choices as individuals, they
say. And that’s true, to some extent, but it’s also
true that feminism is about resisting male dominance, that the most
important goal of feminism is doing what is best for the status
of women as a group. Women who identify as feminists have a responsibility
to think about how our choices and public statements as women, can
affect other women’s lives. As a woman who was harmed by repeated
exposure to pornography in her childhood, I can honestly say that
my father’s pornography would have been just as hurtful to
me, whether a man or woman made it. Some women may learn to enjoy
pornography, but many more have been hurt in and through it. Some
women may try to see sex as power, but many more realize power is
still in the hands of men, whenever they decide whom they will buy
sexual access to. Why should women be expected to reclaim an industry
men came up with to begin with? Why should we try to make lovable
pornography, working within the same system of patriarchy and capitalism
men continue to run? Couldn’t we use our energy to create
our own ideas about sex instead, ideas that do not involve pornography
at all?
On her web site, Nina Hartley claims to offer pro-woman pornography.
One of her films is entitled Hot Cherry Pies. The cover
features a woman’s vulva (no face of course) neatly hidden
by a smashed piece of pastry. A caption reads, “sink your
teeth into a slice of hot cherry pie! 20 panty-soaked scenes of
toy stuffing, muff munching, dong dunking fun, [courtesy of] pussy
pro Nina Hartley!” A reviewer notes enthusiastically, “The
box has a scratch and sniff on it. If you scratch the pussy it smells
like cherries. It’s a great conversation piece.”
As a feminist, I want to be able to critique sexist imagery of
women in the media. How can I do that, if I have to accept Hartley’s
version of the same thing as liberating? The ideas Hartley expresses
about women in her films are the same as those found in male pornography—that
is, that sex is about women’s surrender, about some degree
of force, being stuffed, bitten into, compared to food. The women
marketed as lesbians in her ‘girl-on-girl’ features
do not look like lesbian women I know and care about. They enact
a clichéd male fantasy, rather than honoring what sex and
intimacy can be between two women. Women’s bodies in Hartley’s
films are usually reworked to conform to sexist standards of femininity—bleached
blond, fake breasts, waxed genitals, underarms, and legs, so that
the bodies of fully grown women look like prepubescent children.
Can it really be positive for men to find depictions of women in
this state exciting? The enormous range of touch, emotion and sensuality
that encompasses women’s sexuality, or any kind of authentically
human sexuality, isn’t even hinted at in Hartley’s films.
It cannot be captured in any pornography, truthfully. The problem
is, pornography is not about women’s sexuality at all—those
aspects of sex that are valuable, that involve knowing and connecting
with another person as a human, cannot be shown in pornography;
Pornography is a substitute for intimacy, a sexist one, for relating
to women through sex. But sex with women cannot be commercially
boxed and marketed, precisely because it is human, because women
are.
Some women, and maybe even some men, would like to experience sex
that is not commercial. Some of us are ‘pro-sex,’ to
the point of wanting sex as human beings. What happens to us, if
as women, Hartley’s version of sex does not make us feel better?
What happens when all the men we know use pornography and think
of us as pussy, or cherry pies? As a woman, I remember times when
men have used words like those to hurt me. Trying to redeem them
as sexy, seems as pointless as trying to redeem racial slurs.
I do not want to be pussy or pie. What I would like is the chance
to be a person, even during sex. Andrea Dworkin wrote, “Girls
want so much, not knowing they want the impossible: to move in a
real world of action and accomplishment; to be someone individual
and unique; to act on one’s own feelings, appetites, and ambitions.”
I have my own appetites; I do not need the sexual script that pornographers—male
or female—want to sell me. I have my own ambitions. I want
the chance to find my own vision of sex. I want lovers who are willing
to abandon pornography, so that I can have partners in respect and
equality. I want to be, not the fuck-hole of male pornography, or
the hot cherry pie of Hartley’s, but a human being.
Stephanie Cleveland graduated from the University of Georgia in
2002. She is a poet and has spoken nationally against pornography
and prostitution, including at the NOW 2005 National Conference
in Nashville, TN. Stephanie has lived in London and Harlem.
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